gsc999
04-21 10:49 PM
I stayed till 6:30 p.m. and got an opportunity to briefly talk about Immigration Voice and commended his initiative on solving this issue.
Here is my take:
- Lot of IV members showed up, around 50. Please correct me if I get that right.
- Per my understanding Gutierrez came to CA, even though he is from Illinois to seek and reinforce support from California representatives, since CA is the swing state as far as immigration is concerned. Legal as well as undocumented.
- A lot of Latino origin people showed up. Well, no surprises there. Most of STRIVE does deal with undocumented immigration. Infact, it might be better that way. We keep low public profile but hard and strong lobbying.
- I asked Rep. Gutierrez if STRIVE bill had enough Republican support to pass the House. He mentioned that he is working to do that.He wants us to contact Republicans reps., not just the Democrats.
- It was good learning experience. I wasn't expecting a structured Q&A session. A suggestion: It would be great if we can trash out a strategy among ourselves and designate a spokesperson.
- I gave a brief interview video interview to the office of a State Senator from Sacramento. I mentioned about IV and our goals.
- It did looked like a Spanish affair but it is our preogative to speak up.
Here is my take:
- Lot of IV members showed up, around 50. Please correct me if I get that right.
- Per my understanding Gutierrez came to CA, even though he is from Illinois to seek and reinforce support from California representatives, since CA is the swing state as far as immigration is concerned. Legal as well as undocumented.
- A lot of Latino origin people showed up. Well, no surprises there. Most of STRIVE does deal with undocumented immigration. Infact, it might be better that way. We keep low public profile but hard and strong lobbying.
- I asked Rep. Gutierrez if STRIVE bill had enough Republican support to pass the House. He mentioned that he is working to do that.He wants us to contact Republicans reps., not just the Democrats.
- It was good learning experience. I wasn't expecting a structured Q&A session. A suggestion: It would be great if we can trash out a strategy among ourselves and designate a spokesperson.
- I gave a brief interview video interview to the office of a State Senator from Sacramento. I mentioned about IV and our goals.
- It did looked like a Spanish affair but it is our preogative to speak up.
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vivid_bharti
05-07 12:13 AM
cool down...I did pay for that effort, I am not a member of donor forum though..If you had contributed for the FOIA effort you would have known the actions IV has taken in donor forum. Its a shame that people like you dont contribute and have audacity to come back and demand answers.
belmontboy
11-12 08:19 PM
I am not sure what lobbying efforts would do for us, haven't worked so far...In my opinion we need more media visibility which makes politicians to take notice of us. In these troubled times they are open to any kind of ideas that would help the housing market.
Just show the real numbers to the media -
Approx 0.5 million people (well educated with decent earnings)
Atleast 50 to 60% of these people could potentially buy houses if immigration related uncertainities are gone
Potentially quarter of million buyers for houses, that is a lot!!
I leave it up to IV core to followup on these ideas. I repeat, as I have done so many times, it is all about marketing + media presence. We won the July 2007 visa bulletin battle because of adverse media reaction to the state department. Grass roots stuff is all good, but no one will ever notice it.
Enough of "ideating" and start "implementing" [courtesy: IBM ads] :D
Just show the real numbers to the media -
Approx 0.5 million people (well educated with decent earnings)
Atleast 50 to 60% of these people could potentially buy houses if immigration related uncertainities are gone
Potentially quarter of million buyers for houses, that is a lot!!
I leave it up to IV core to followup on these ideas. I repeat, as I have done so many times, it is all about marketing + media presence. We won the July 2007 visa bulletin battle because of adverse media reaction to the state department. Grass roots stuff is all good, but no one will ever notice it.
Enough of "ideating" and start "implementing" [courtesy: IBM ads] :D
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eeezzz
02-14 11:52 AM
The spirit of US is to united everyone from different countries and races to live together to be loyal to the same country. But truly they don't want too many immigrants from one or two specific country. That is why they setup the country limit rules. So the population for all the immigrants from differnet places grows up about equally in this country. I think this is normal to every country. I believe every country will do the same if they are facing a lot immigrants. If the other day many immigrants from other countries want to go India, Indian gov. will do the same.
Just to be curious, where is the fight the OP mentioned. Can OP link us or is it just OP think there is a fight?
Just to be curious, where is the fight the OP mentioned. Can OP link us or is it just OP think there is a fight?
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yabadaba
09-10 04:07 PM
thx for catching that.. i m sending it now to my school
gsc999
04-20 02:00 PM
Sure. Thanks for letting us know.
I will also post this message at our Northern California Yahoo group.
I will also post this message at our Northern California Yahoo group.
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Buran
02-14 12:30 AM
Dear friends,
I am appalled and disgusted by the mudslinging going on between ROW and India-born applicants. .....
1) Per country quotas in EB immigration cause infighting
I understand your frustration, but the rules are the same for everybody, and if India sends more immigrants to the US then any other country, that\\\'s not the US Government\'s fault.
If there were not per country limits, Indians would consume all those EB visas visas leaving no chance to the applicants from other countries to immigrate to the US legally.
I am appalled and disgusted by the mudslinging going on between ROW and India-born applicants. .....
1) Per country quotas in EB immigration cause infighting
I understand your frustration, but the rules are the same for everybody, and if India sends more immigrants to the US then any other country, that\\\'s not the US Government\'s fault.
If there were not per country limits, Indians would consume all those EB visas visas leaving no chance to the applicants from other countries to immigrate to the US legally.
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monika
07-23 07:33 PM
When we emailed him about our concerns regarding this issue his response was the following:
I have won many cases without it. It�s not something we need to worry about at this point b/c we don�t have receipts yet. If immigration needs it they will likely request it.
To tell you the truth I'm still very worried.
I have won many cases without it. It�s not something we need to worry about at this point b/c we don�t have receipts yet. If immigration needs it they will likely request it.
To tell you the truth I'm still very worried.
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johnamit
07-20 02:31 PM
almost 3 weeks are over since my application reached (NSC OR TSC ??) and haven't heard anything yet.
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singhsa3
03-04 09:44 AM
My letter to realtor.org
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Dear Sir/Madam,
We don’t claim that my proposition here will make the housing crisis go away but what I am proposing is to let us think out of box and help each other.
We are an association of highly skilled immigrants, waiting for our permanent residency status. There are approximately one million such people in this situation.
Before we proceed to make our point, we would like you to consider the following facts regarding ourselves:
• Average age: 30-35 years
• Average years of stay in the USA (all legally): 7 years
• Average legal status in the USA: Final stage of the green card (called I-485 stage) and posses employment authorization document (EAD), renewable every year, indefinitely till one gets his green card.
• Average Salary: $75K+
• Average net worth: 100K-400K (mostly liquid)
• Average occupations: Information technology, Doctors and Financial Analysts
• Average education level: At least undergraduate
• Average credit history: Excellent
Note: If needed, we can cite the source of the information, which is from the government itself.
As mentioned earlier, we are in the final stage of our green card process and at this stage there are very few rejections (<1%). It means that we would eventually get our green cards but it may take several years. Please note that the final stage (called I-485 stage) is the stage, where the applicant has already been found eligible for immigrant visas (aka green cards). Since government can issue only limited number of such visas in a year, the wait becomes long. Please also note that after applying for I-485, people can get their EAD enabling them to work for any employer. The EAD has to be renewed every year and most of us have their EADs
Even though the chances of the rejection is very low but most people, out of fear, have been postponing any major investment decisions, like buying a house or a new car, in other words, living conservatively. In addition, due to the turmoil in the market, several of us, in spite of our excellent credit history, income and high liquid net worth may not qualify for loans as EAD is valid for only one year.
Our organization has been urging the government to fix the green card process or at the very least relax the hassles of the yearly renewal ordeal for EADs. Either of these things will bring certainty in our life and prompt some of us to take some big decisions.
We are writing to you with a hope that our situation will be highlighted and our intellectual and financial potential contribution to this country is appreciated. Please let know if you are interested discussing the matter further and how we can help each other.
We are conducting a small poll on one of the websites used for organizing ourselves. Almost 60% of the respondents are postponing the decision because of the situation they are in. The poll can be found at http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=17660
Yours truly,
Sanjeev Singh
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Dear Sir/Madam,
We don’t claim that my proposition here will make the housing crisis go away but what I am proposing is to let us think out of box and help each other.
We are an association of highly skilled immigrants, waiting for our permanent residency status. There are approximately one million such people in this situation.
Before we proceed to make our point, we would like you to consider the following facts regarding ourselves:
• Average age: 30-35 years
• Average years of stay in the USA (all legally): 7 years
• Average legal status in the USA: Final stage of the green card (called I-485 stage) and posses employment authorization document (EAD), renewable every year, indefinitely till one gets his green card.
• Average Salary: $75K+
• Average net worth: 100K-400K (mostly liquid)
• Average occupations: Information technology, Doctors and Financial Analysts
• Average education level: At least undergraduate
• Average credit history: Excellent
Note: If needed, we can cite the source of the information, which is from the government itself.
As mentioned earlier, we are in the final stage of our green card process and at this stage there are very few rejections (<1%). It means that we would eventually get our green cards but it may take several years. Please note that the final stage (called I-485 stage) is the stage, where the applicant has already been found eligible for immigrant visas (aka green cards). Since government can issue only limited number of such visas in a year, the wait becomes long. Please also note that after applying for I-485, people can get their EAD enabling them to work for any employer. The EAD has to be renewed every year and most of us have their EADs
Even though the chances of the rejection is very low but most people, out of fear, have been postponing any major investment decisions, like buying a house or a new car, in other words, living conservatively. In addition, due to the turmoil in the market, several of us, in spite of our excellent credit history, income and high liquid net worth may not qualify for loans as EAD is valid for only one year.
Our organization has been urging the government to fix the green card process or at the very least relax the hassles of the yearly renewal ordeal for EADs. Either of these things will bring certainty in our life and prompt some of us to take some big decisions.
We are writing to you with a hope that our situation will be highlighted and our intellectual and financial potential contribution to this country is appreciated. Please let know if you are interested discussing the matter further and how we can help each other.
We are conducting a small poll on one of the websites used for organizing ourselves. Almost 60% of the respondents are postponing the decision because of the situation they are in. The poll can be found at http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=17660
Yours truly,
Sanjeev Singh
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GCwaitforever
12-26 04:24 PM
Business needs define rules in this country. Western Union was sending money to mexico. Then American Banks started chipping into that business, accepting different documents as valid for money transfer. You get the drift.
As for Citi bank not opening e-accounts for existing account holders, it is a bit surprising. Once they vetted you in the process, they are repeating it just to verify your identity? My bank lets me open different accounts online as I am known to them for a long long time.
As for Citi bank not opening e-accounts for existing account holders, it is a bit surprising. Once they vetted you in the process, they are repeating it just to verify your identity? My bank lets me open different accounts online as I am known to them for a long long time.
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kumar1
12-10 02:02 PM
There used to be a guy called VLDRAO.....self proclaimed DOS visa bulletin expert. Where is he these days? I would love to hear from him.
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gcisadawg
12-14 11:20 PM
kumar1,
I agree to most of the points you wrote. I believe there is one thing that you missed.
H1B is a dual intent visa that allows a foreigner to work in US and also apply for permanent residency. It was originally intended for American companies to hire people from abroad. But how many American companies hire people directly from abroad? Even if there is some, it would be very very minimal.
Body shoppers are the one who take on the difficult task of interviewing/recruiting/sponsoring/air-lifting the foreigner to USA in addition to preparing the candidate to withstand the rigors of a visa interview.
They give initial accommodation (agreed, a 1BR aptmnt cramped with many ppl), pay on bench ( accepted, not all), place the candidate on a project and get the foreigner US work/cultural experience. After they go through the whole nine yards, these American companies jump in and poach these H1Bs.
Take the body shoppers and glorified body shoppers like TCS, wipro, infy etc out of the equation and you would have sheer wastage of H1B numbers since the American companies will not go abroad to recruit someone who is unfamiliar with US work culture.
That is why congress came up with 20K quota for master degree holders who can be recruited directly by US corporations. In my opinion, US corporations should not complain at all since they were never interested in upholding the true spirit of H1B by recruiting people from abroad directly.
-gcisadawg
I agree to most of the points you wrote. I believe there is one thing that you missed.
H1B is a dual intent visa that allows a foreigner to work in US and also apply for permanent residency. It was originally intended for American companies to hire people from abroad. But how many American companies hire people directly from abroad? Even if there is some, it would be very very minimal.
Body shoppers are the one who take on the difficult task of interviewing/recruiting/sponsoring/air-lifting the foreigner to USA in addition to preparing the candidate to withstand the rigors of a visa interview.
They give initial accommodation (agreed, a 1BR aptmnt cramped with many ppl), pay on bench ( accepted, not all), place the candidate on a project and get the foreigner US work/cultural experience. After they go through the whole nine yards, these American companies jump in and poach these H1Bs.
Take the body shoppers and glorified body shoppers like TCS, wipro, infy etc out of the equation and you would have sheer wastage of H1B numbers since the American companies will not go abroad to recruit someone who is unfamiliar with US work culture.
That is why congress came up with 20K quota for master degree holders who can be recruited directly by US corporations. In my opinion, US corporations should not complain at all since they were never interested in upholding the true spirit of H1B by recruiting people from abroad directly.
-gcisadawg
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like_watching_paint_dry
05-27 05:22 PM
I-485 application instructions (http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-485instr.pdf) ask you to make photocopies of your passport.
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Abhinaym
08-11 10:13 AM
It's out now EB2 I and C are 08JAN05.
Visa Bulletin September 2009 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4558.html)
Visa Bulletin September 2009 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4558.html)
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sanju
04-04 03:01 PM
The Durbin-Grassley bill would prohibit employers from hiring H-1B employees who are then outsourced to other companies. This is a method that some companies use to evade restrictions on hiring H-1Bs.
http://durbin.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=271783
Open your eyes and look clearly. This bill is designed to put an end to any competition for middle aged racist engineers afraid of competition from people who fit the profile of the membership of IV. Some members on the forum seem to think that this bill contain provisions to protect H-1b workers, but that is not true. This bill is designed to mean that current workers on H-1 are taking away American jobs as the protection proposed by the bill were not there when most of the forum members came on H1b. This bill was written by Ron Hira and IEEE. If nothing else then we need to understand that Ron Hira et al, are not in love with any of us. They represent middle aged racist engineers in US who are scared of competition and globalization. So please stop day dreaming and expecting that this bill would have anything to protect/benefit green card applicants. I understand/share the frustration with body-shoppers/consulting companies. Why whine about consulting companies and, work for them at the same time. If you are so good then why don't you switch jobs. Accenture, PWC, D&T, Bearing Point, Oracle consulting etc. also do consulting, what about them. Supporting this or any other bill from Sen. Grassley is suicidal. It’s acting like the 90% of ignorant Republican base, who earn less than 30K/yr and still support the party that oppose welfare reform and give tax breaks to the richest.
Taking out frustration on consulting companies doesn’t help us. If the green card process would work in the intended manner, none of us will be beholden to the employer. And there will be no room for frustration. Any employer would take advantage of such loopholes in the process where employee is beholden to the employer. But the thing is, employers or consulting companies did not create the currently broken green card process, neither did they create the backlog. The lawmakers, who did not attend to the immigration system for more than a decade, are responsible for the current system. And organizations like IEEE are responsible for opposing any meaningful reform on H1B/green card issues. Now they are using the situation to their advantage by tainting a pictures if we all the people in US, waiting for their green cards, should not have been in US if the system proposed by the bill was in place. And it is astonishing to see people calling to support a bill wihtout knowing its contents. So why blame our problems on consulting companies? You think IEEE drafted this bill for people who match the profile of IV members? This bill was has been drafted with the objective to secure the position of middle aged racist engineers, who do not want to upgrade their skills and who are scared of young minds ready to compete and learn new things.
http://durbin.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=271783
Open your eyes and look clearly. This bill is designed to put an end to any competition for middle aged racist engineers afraid of competition from people who fit the profile of the membership of IV. Some members on the forum seem to think that this bill contain provisions to protect H-1b workers, but that is not true. This bill is designed to mean that current workers on H-1 are taking away American jobs as the protection proposed by the bill were not there when most of the forum members came on H1b. This bill was written by Ron Hira and IEEE. If nothing else then we need to understand that Ron Hira et al, are not in love with any of us. They represent middle aged racist engineers in US who are scared of competition and globalization. So please stop day dreaming and expecting that this bill would have anything to protect/benefit green card applicants. I understand/share the frustration with body-shoppers/consulting companies. Why whine about consulting companies and, work for them at the same time. If you are so good then why don't you switch jobs. Accenture, PWC, D&T, Bearing Point, Oracle consulting etc. also do consulting, what about them. Supporting this or any other bill from Sen. Grassley is suicidal. It’s acting like the 90% of ignorant Republican base, who earn less than 30K/yr and still support the party that oppose welfare reform and give tax breaks to the richest.
Taking out frustration on consulting companies doesn’t help us. If the green card process would work in the intended manner, none of us will be beholden to the employer. And there will be no room for frustration. Any employer would take advantage of such loopholes in the process where employee is beholden to the employer. But the thing is, employers or consulting companies did not create the currently broken green card process, neither did they create the backlog. The lawmakers, who did not attend to the immigration system for more than a decade, are responsible for the current system. And organizations like IEEE are responsible for opposing any meaningful reform on H1B/green card issues. Now they are using the situation to their advantage by tainting a pictures if we all the people in US, waiting for their green cards, should not have been in US if the system proposed by the bill was in place. And it is astonishing to see people calling to support a bill wihtout knowing its contents. So why blame our problems on consulting companies? You think IEEE drafted this bill for people who match the profile of IV members? This bill was has been drafted with the objective to secure the position of middle aged racist engineers, who do not want to upgrade their skills and who are scared of young minds ready to compete and learn new things.
logiclife
01-30 04:37 PM
I agree with you totally. But the sad part is, Try going the normal straight way & nobody entertains you when the companies hear the word "H4". All the work experience gathered over the years suddenly seems like crap in front of the visa status.
Its frustrating.
Yes. Many of the American companies, the fortune 500 companies would go without a qualified worker for months and months but would not hire H1B because they dont want to deal with keeping track of stuff and all the legal requirements and paperwork and dealing with USCIS and immigration lawyers.
But you have to start somewhere and gain experience and hope that you will have a project somewhere, where you prove to the client (potential employer) that you are a valuable resource, and then they would sponsor you for H1 and then you can quit your desi employer. That is the standard M.O. for most people who are looking for a start. However, in most cases, since desi employers are also the GC sponsors of the primary bread-winner of the family, that opportunity of working for a better employer is passed up by many employees.
Its frustrating.
Yes. Many of the American companies, the fortune 500 companies would go without a qualified worker for months and months but would not hire H1B because they dont want to deal with keeping track of stuff and all the legal requirements and paperwork and dealing with USCIS and immigration lawyers.
But you have to start somewhere and gain experience and hope that you will have a project somewhere, where you prove to the client (potential employer) that you are a valuable resource, and then they would sponsor you for H1 and then you can quit your desi employer. That is the standard M.O. for most people who are looking for a start. However, in most cases, since desi employers are also the GC sponsors of the primary bread-winner of the family, that opportunity of working for a better employer is passed up by many employees.
santa123
02-24 03:45 PM
Can an approved I-140 from Company A (future employer) be used to obtain an extension for H1 with company B (Current employer)?
Pls provide your inputs
Pls provide your inputs