MacForScience
May 6, 08:35 PM
Top-line iMac or base-line Mac Pro?
Hey guys, I'm a video editor that works mostly with RED footage in Final Cut Pro and After Effects. I'm also a gamer running Bootcamp and Steam. I'm currently working on a 3 year old Macbook Pro and looking to upgrade by the end of the year. Here are my choices, I'm wondering if a new top of the line iMac will outperform the current base model of the Mac Pros for gaming and video work... or if the Mac Pro is the way to go.
27" iMac
3.4ghz Quad-Core i7
2TB Serial ATA HD
AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB
$2,304 (Student)
Mac Pro
2.8ghz Quad-Core Xeon "Nehalem"
2TB 7200 RPM HD
ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB
$2,614 (Student w/ no display)
I plan on buying RAM (and Mac Pro display) elsewhere so I did not include it in the specs. Thoughts? :)
No question Mac Pro this is the only solution for Video Editing. The Mac Pro will give you the expandability you will need it is a joke trying to do video editing at a pro level or using RED on an iMac. Get the Mac Pro and as you have money buy more drives (RAIDs), and RAM etc. You also give yourself the option of installing pro level capture cards. I will admit that the dual thunderbolt ports makes the issue less clear but not enough for me to alter the recommendation. You may consider waiting for the next gen mac pro with thunderbolt before buying if you want to play it safe.
Cheers
Hey guys, I'm a video editor that works mostly with RED footage in Final Cut Pro and After Effects. I'm also a gamer running Bootcamp and Steam. I'm currently working on a 3 year old Macbook Pro and looking to upgrade by the end of the year. Here are my choices, I'm wondering if a new top of the line iMac will outperform the current base model of the Mac Pros for gaming and video work... or if the Mac Pro is the way to go.
27" iMac
3.4ghz Quad-Core i7
2TB Serial ATA HD
AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB
$2,304 (Student)
Mac Pro
2.8ghz Quad-Core Xeon "Nehalem"
2TB 7200 RPM HD
ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB
$2,614 (Student w/ no display)
I plan on buying RAM (and Mac Pro display) elsewhere so I did not include it in the specs. Thoughts? :)
No question Mac Pro this is the only solution for Video Editing. The Mac Pro will give you the expandability you will need it is a joke trying to do video editing at a pro level or using RED on an iMac. Get the Mac Pro and as you have money buy more drives (RAIDs), and RAM etc. You also give yourself the option of installing pro level capture cards. I will admit that the dual thunderbolt ports makes the issue less clear but not enough for me to alter the recommendation. You may consider waiting for the next gen mac pro with thunderbolt before buying if you want to play it safe.
Cheers
zea mays
Jun 28, 01:06 PM
Got the socks! Thanks for the fast shipping and great transaction.
ghostlyorb
Mar 3, 03:19 PM
Hi there,
Just wanted to make a suggestion on thread titles. I may be the only one, but I think that thread titles with repeated question marks (?????) are annoying and unnecessary. It only suggests unnecessary urgency and importance to the thread the poster has written. Therefore I think there should be a rule that states that threads with more than one repeated question mark in the title will be deleted until renamed.
Thanks,
Ams.
And yet you put it in your title? I know it was to make a point.. but sorta hypocritical...
Just wanted to make a suggestion on thread titles. I may be the only one, but I think that thread titles with repeated question marks (?????) are annoying and unnecessary. It only suggests unnecessary urgency and importance to the thread the poster has written. Therefore I think there should be a rule that states that threads with more than one repeated question mark in the title will be deleted until renamed.
Thanks,
Ams.
And yet you put it in your title? I know it was to make a point.. but sorta hypocritical...
uknick
Mar 25, 12:41 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3 like Mac OS X; en-gb) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8F190 Safari/6533.18.5)
Don't know about you guys but I have decided to order my new iPad online this morning at 5am and then take my chances at the store today. When I places my order it said 2-3 weeks which is a bit scary!! I went for the 32gb 3G in black with the grey smart cover (yes I know I'm boring) let me know whether you have taken the same route and also whether you hear from Apple on shipping. I will hopfully be heading out to Covent Garden this afternoon to try to get my hands on one.... ATB Nick
Don't know about you guys but I have decided to order my new iPad online this morning at 5am and then take my chances at the store today. When I places my order it said 2-3 weeks which is a bit scary!! I went for the 32gb 3G in black with the grey smart cover (yes I know I'm boring) let me know whether you have taken the same route and also whether you hear from Apple on shipping. I will hopfully be heading out to Covent Garden this afternoon to try to get my hands on one.... ATB Nick
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williamw
Oct 2, 06:18 PM
I'm not sure. Probably more than $345. I'm leaning more towards a trade for a touch.
I'll give $355 Shipped! [DIBS].
I'll give $355 Shipped! [DIBS].
h1r0ll3r
May 4, 02:13 PM
how did you reinstall you jb packages?
i never tried just updating, i usually do a full restore, the last one i did i wiped everything of my phone and started fresh cus it was a little sluggish and slow, after that is been running nice and smooth
You reinstall JB packages through Cydia (one by one) or by using AptBackup or PkgBackup or some other app like these.
The update simply overwrites the files on your phone but still keeps everything intact like your music, photos, apps etc. The full restore will wipe out everything making you start from scratch.
I just did a full restore to 4.3.2 since mine was sluggish and slow. You can do either or but I always prefer doing a full restore since it clears everything out.
i never tried just updating, i usually do a full restore, the last one i did i wiped everything of my phone and started fresh cus it was a little sluggish and slow, after that is been running nice and smooth
You reinstall JB packages through Cydia (one by one) or by using AptBackup or PkgBackup or some other app like these.
The update simply overwrites the files on your phone but still keeps everything intact like your music, photos, apps etc. The full restore will wipe out everything making you start from scratch.
I just did a full restore to 4.3.2 since mine was sluggish and slow. You can do either or but I always prefer doing a full restore since it clears everything out.
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volzalum
Mar 17, 12:28 PM
Here is my set-up that works very well and is stable:
3 ATV2 (each to seperate Home theater receiver)
2 Airport Express (each to seperate receiver)
1 1TB Time Capsule
1 3TB Seagate USB 2.0 (only store iTunes media on it)
1 old Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop
I have the TC connected to the cable modem
I have the 3TB Harddrive connected to the TC
I have the Dell Computer connected by ethernet cable to the TC
Each of the ATV2's and AE's are connected wirelessly to the TC
I use the Dell as my iTunes Server and have it mapped to the iTunes library on the 3TB Harddrive. I can stream music to all 5 devices without any fading or delays. I can stream video to any of the ATV2's with no issues. Each of the ATV2s can access the shared iTunes library with no issues.
Movies typically start playing on the ATV2's after about 10 seconds and are usually fully loaded in about 10 minutes (typical file size is 1-2GB).
I use multiple iPhones (3Gs and 4) and iPad 1 to control the Dell iTunes library when streaming music. I also have two MBPros connected wirelessly to the TC and a 320GB NAS. I only use the TC for backup of 1 of the MBP's.
3 ATV2 (each to seperate Home theater receiver)
2 Airport Express (each to seperate receiver)
1 1TB Time Capsule
1 3TB Seagate USB 2.0 (only store iTunes media on it)
1 old Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop
I have the TC connected to the cable modem
I have the 3TB Harddrive connected to the TC
I have the Dell Computer connected by ethernet cable to the TC
Each of the ATV2's and AE's are connected wirelessly to the TC
I use the Dell as my iTunes Server and have it mapped to the iTunes library on the 3TB Harddrive. I can stream music to all 5 devices without any fading or delays. I can stream video to any of the ATV2's with no issues. Each of the ATV2s can access the shared iTunes library with no issues.
Movies typically start playing on the ATV2's after about 10 seconds and are usually fully loaded in about 10 minutes (typical file size is 1-2GB).
I use multiple iPhones (3Gs and 4) and iPad 1 to control the Dell iTunes library when streaming music. I also have two MBPros connected wirelessly to the TC and a 320GB NAS. I only use the TC for backup of 1 of the MBP's.
xfauxsn
Jan 10, 08:39 PM
Hi all, I recently rebooted and have noticed a small blue "bubble" on my screen. It is transparent and turns opaque when you mouse over it. If you click on it, it activates the function usually assigned to the F10 key for Expose. I can move it around the screen like something from Konfabulator. I do have both Konfabulator and Growl installed, but they are both off right now.. and this thing still won't go away. Any help?
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fleg123
May 5, 01:51 PM
Yes, yes, I know that all technology is obsolete the second you take it out of the box, wahwahwah. Heh. Sorry.
Anyway, I've been using this early 2006 C2D MBP for 5 years now and it's been a great machine. It was my first mac and, other than battery problems, it was a fantastic experience that has driven me to purchase apple again.
These new iMacs look fantastic and I'm pretty sure I want to get a 27inch model. My question is regarding how best to ensure I get 5-6 years of great performance out of the computer, hardware-wise.
Money isn't really an issue, but obviously I don't want to spend more than I have to.
1) Is the i7 worth it over the i5? I game, use photoshop, handbrake and the occasional final cut/video editing project. I've been seeing hellhammer give "evidence" that the i7 actually can perform worse for gaming (of course, not by much). Will this be true in 3 years (yeah, I know no one can predict the future, just asking for best educated guesses from the experts)? For instance, will we likely be seeing more games make use of hyperthreading?
2) 1gb vs 2gb vram. I've noticed a lot of people talking about the fact that the 6790m isn't powerful enough to actually ever need 2gb of vram. Is this something that is true right now but could change over time? I don't know the tech details of why 2gb can't really be used, so I don't know if this is something that is the result of the way current software uses the gpu or if 2gb will never, ever be useful on the 6790m.
Hmm, I think those are my two biggest questions. Sorry for the wall-o-text. Just looking for advice on how to get the most longevity out of the system without being uninformed and just buying the top of the line across the board.
Thanks!
Anyway, I've been using this early 2006 C2D MBP for 5 years now and it's been a great machine. It was my first mac and, other than battery problems, it was a fantastic experience that has driven me to purchase apple again.
These new iMacs look fantastic and I'm pretty sure I want to get a 27inch model. My question is regarding how best to ensure I get 5-6 years of great performance out of the computer, hardware-wise.
Money isn't really an issue, but obviously I don't want to spend more than I have to.
1) Is the i7 worth it over the i5? I game, use photoshop, handbrake and the occasional final cut/video editing project. I've been seeing hellhammer give "evidence" that the i7 actually can perform worse for gaming (of course, not by much). Will this be true in 3 years (yeah, I know no one can predict the future, just asking for best educated guesses from the experts)? For instance, will we likely be seeing more games make use of hyperthreading?
2) 1gb vs 2gb vram. I've noticed a lot of people talking about the fact that the 6790m isn't powerful enough to actually ever need 2gb of vram. Is this something that is true right now but could change over time? I don't know the tech details of why 2gb can't really be used, so I don't know if this is something that is the result of the way current software uses the gpu or if 2gb will never, ever be useful on the 6790m.
Hmm, I think those are my two biggest questions. Sorry for the wall-o-text. Just looking for advice on how to get the most longevity out of the system without being uninformed and just buying the top of the line across the board.
Thanks!
lOUDsCREAMEr
Sep 28, 09:17 PM
it makes safari snappier :D
im an idiot :rolleyes:
im an idiot :rolleyes:
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Crispy1
May 5, 05:18 PM
doesnt justify the fact that I did multiple other tests throughout the day and realized the temperatures were wrong. Ive had 2 overheating issues after 20 minutes of play and found my temperatures reading at 102-105 degrees celcius before shutting down. Only having the game and windows open doing my tests.
I've even tried using a friends laptop cooler but that doesn't really do much either
I've even tried using a friends laptop cooler but that doesn't really do much either
Island Dog
Sep 19, 08:52 PM
Can you take the check to the company store and have them do a special/bto order, so you pay there but get it sent to you from the factory?
I have to take the check to the store. I'm just not sure what their policy is on upgrades. I read on the forums that sometimes they keep iBooks with bigger HD's in stock because it's a popular upgrade.
Thanks again for the advice. I have been wanting to buy an iBook for a long time.
I have to take the check to the store. I'm just not sure what their policy is on upgrades. I read on the forums that sometimes they keep iBooks with bigger HD's in stock because it's a popular upgrade.
Thanks again for the advice. I have been wanting to buy an iBook for a long time.
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BakedBeans
Aug 15, 05:10 PM
did you find out btw?
dpaanlka
Nov 9, 11:42 AM
Pages is perfectly fine for word processing, which I know from experience as I been using it for that purpose every day for nearly two years. Most of the people who say otherwise either haven't learned to use it or would have preferred that Apple produce a Word clone. Some of are very happy that they did not go that route.
I must Second that.
Office isn't even installed on my PowerBook anymore, and I've been using Pages and Keynote quite successfully on campus (where lots of classes and professors want lots of word and powerpoints all the time) for two semesters now and am glad I made the switch. I'm excited to hear about Lasso.
I must Second that.
Office isn't even installed on my PowerBook anymore, and I've been using Pages and Keynote quite successfully on campus (where lots of classes and professors want lots of word and powerpoints all the time) for two semesters now and am glad I made the switch. I'm excited to hear about Lasso.
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evilgEEk
Jun 5, 02:00 AM
I'm not interested in the phone, as I already have my own soon-to-be-outdated iPhone. ;)
But I had to comment on your avatar. Scrubs is my favorite TV program of ALL time!
Awesome show.
:D
But I had to comment on your avatar. Scrubs is my favorite TV program of ALL time!
Awesome show.
:D
seasurfer
May 4, 11:07 PM
I am thinking of buying a 1Tb iMac 2011 i7. I don't want to waste money on the 2Tb one.
However, I may need more space in the future, I was seeing this hard-drive dock thing when I was browsing newegg, I never use one before, which one works best with iMac? Is there a thunderbolt one? Thanks.:)
However, I may need more space in the future, I was seeing this hard-drive dock thing when I was browsing newegg, I never use one before, which one works best with iMac? Is there a thunderbolt one? Thanks.:)
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amacgenius
Dec 15, 07:45 PM
I'm VERY interested in the Wallstreet, how much were you looking to get?
ludevit
Dec 28, 12:09 PM
Cromulent, if you still have one left i would very much appreciate to get it.
My addy: ludevit.stur [at] gmail.com
Cheers!
My addy: ludevit.stur [at] gmail.com
Cheers!
clayj
Mar 20, 09:29 PM
The beauty of painting the iBook, in my opinion, though, is that since you can take off the shell and make it clear, you can paint the inside of it, therefore making it impossible to scratch off or damage any painting you do. I mean, the Vaio looks awesome and all, but you'd have to be darn careful with it. The down side is that you have to paint it like a mirror image, though, and you also have to paint the picture with the top layers first, which makes it kind of complicated.
But I mean, an iBook is an iBook... a Vaio... well, that's just a PC. :pActually, unlike the iBook, the VAIO's shell is not clear... this painting is on the OUTSIDE of the notebook. No mirror skills required, but it does mean that the painting is exposed to the elements.
Like I said, it's just a similar project... it would be nice to see more notebooks designed to be user-customizable WRT making artistic cases.
But I mean, an iBook is an iBook... a Vaio... well, that's just a PC. :pActually, unlike the iBook, the VAIO's shell is not clear... this painting is on the OUTSIDE of the notebook. No mirror skills required, but it does mean that the painting is exposed to the elements.
Like I said, it's just a similar project... it would be nice to see more notebooks designed to be user-customizable WRT making artistic cases.
littleman23408
Oct 29, 12:39 PM
Found it on craigslist for $100
Smooth. Gotta love CL
Smooth. Gotta love CL
buffalohill
Mar 27, 02:04 PM
I would love to start using spotify, if you happen to have an invite left, it would be really cool if you could send it to me!
My email is --> mrhill at caltech . com <--
Thanks a million!
:)
My email is --> mrhill at caltech . com <--
Thanks a million!
:)
hotsnuglemonstr
Jun 24, 06:49 AM
Hella people here. Line forms at 6
BigBeast
Apr 26, 09:00 PM
I've been researching some of the OCZ PCI solutions (much cheaper of course) and I doubt I will be able to boot in Mac Pro with that card, is that true ?
Why would you think that? If you have the correct PCIe slot, it should allow you to boot from it. A quick email to their tech support might allow you know for sure.
HOWEVER! If you're thinking about the cheaper versions, look at their transfer speeds. Only PCI solutions which offer a clear speed enhancement over SATA 2 or 3 should be bought. Why waste a PCI slot if a SATA drive has the same performance (assuming you have more SATA slots available than PCI slots)?
Why would you think that? If you have the correct PCIe slot, it should allow you to boot from it. A quick email to their tech support might allow you know for sure.
HOWEVER! If you're thinking about the cheaper versions, look at their transfer speeds. Only PCI solutions which offer a clear speed enhancement over SATA 2 or 3 should be bought. Why waste a PCI slot if a SATA drive has the same performance (assuming you have more SATA slots available than PCI slots)?
SanFranKyle
Apr 13, 04:47 PM
I've been waiting and waiting, like many others for the white iPhone 4 to be released, and have been disappointed. I think I'm going to get a used iPhone 4 black (hopefully in shotty condition for cheap) and buy the white kit and transfer.
Questions:
Will the proximity sensor work?
Will the earpiece work?
Are these faulty in all white conversions?
How bad is the camera really?
Any insight would be very much appreciated.
Breakdown here:
Proximity Sensor will work at about 85% with the sharpie fix. To the point where you really won't notice it not working, just auto dimming and stuff like that suffers.
Earpiece will work.
All white conversions will have this, unless it's real high quality, which I have not heard of yet.
Camera is not bad. Without flash there is no problem. Using flash you may or may not have bleed, it's kinda luck of the draw. Might be able to fix it if you can find a way to block light bleed. Super low light conditions, where flash is definitely needed is where your pictures will be useless.
Questions:
Will the proximity sensor work?
Will the earpiece work?
Are these faulty in all white conversions?
How bad is the camera really?
Any insight would be very much appreciated.
Breakdown here:
Proximity Sensor will work at about 85% with the sharpie fix. To the point where you really won't notice it not working, just auto dimming and stuff like that suffers.
Earpiece will work.
All white conversions will have this, unless it's real high quality, which I have not heard of yet.
Camera is not bad. Without flash there is no problem. Using flash you may or may not have bleed, it's kinda luck of the draw. Might be able to fix it if you can find a way to block light bleed. Super low light conditions, where flash is definitely needed is where your pictures will be useless.